Posted by: bringitup | February 8, 2011

Sudanese HIV-man gets 2 years and 2 months in jail for raping a 16-year-old girl

Finns have had to witness both their justice and immigration system crumble under politicians with a completely insane idealistic and solidaric view of the world, which essentially means that criminals (unless they write something on the internet that the government doesn’t like*) get away with hardly any punishment at all, and certainly nothing that is close to what they deserve, and anyone, regardless of how little they will ever bring to the Finnish society, is allowed to immigrate and receive a citizenship.

Much of this is thanks to the Minister of Immigration Astrid Thors and Minister of Justice Tuija Brax, as well as the rest of the government parties that have pushed through their softening of the whole legal system.

Nothing is as frustrating to see than both of these weak systems at work:

The 31-year-old HIV-infected Barnaba Feter Wor Gonyn, from Sudan, raped a 16-year-old girl. As a weapon he used a knife to force her into a building’s back yard.

Now comes the really sickening spin on this whole story: The man was released from custody during the investigation of the assault and rape (!!!) and ended again up in trouble, a couple of days later, when he assaulted a police officer after a fight earlier broke out between Barnaba and another man.

It wasn’t until this assault that the court ordered the man to stay imprisoned, which he has been since November 2010.

The sentence was just a big a joke as the rest of Finland’s nowadays naive and weak justice and immigration system:

The man received 2 years and 2 months in prison and was ordered to pay 15 000 euros to the girl and 3 000 euros to the police officer.

Now where has justice gone? For such crimes, combined with the threat of infecting 2 other people with HIV, I wouldn’t like to see anything less than 20 years for the rape of the girl and 5 for the assault against the police officer, plus the fines and deportation back to Sudan after the prison sentence had ended.

*Another sickening detail is that Seppo Lehto, a rightwing extremist whose rethoric I might not agree with, got 2 years and 4 months for insulting Islam, back in May 2008 (!!!).

Talking bad about Islam is apparently worse, according to the Finnish justice system, than raping a 16-year-old girl and assaulting a police officer.

And then politicians all over Europe wonder why the “Nationalists” are gaining ground, and why the Swiss opted for hitting hard against the unassimilated Muslim communities and for voting for deporting immigrants involved in criminal activities.

Europe’s weak politicians are hopefully going down now, and the Finnish voters will hopefully show with their votes in a couple of weeks that they’ve finally had enough of these morally corrupt and unpatriotic politicians, who certainly don’t know how to rule a beautiful country and make it grow.

Sources:

http://www.ess.fi/?article=313747

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppo_Lehto

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Responses

  1. WELL SAID bringitup! Especially:

    “Now where has justice gone? For such crimes, combined with the threat of infecting 2 other people with HIV, I wouldn’t like to see anything less than 20 years for the rape of the girl and 5 for the assault against the police officer, plus the fines and deportation back to Sudan after the prison sentence had ended.”

    I am a Finnish citizen living abroad with the view of going back to Finland still one day. Reading about injustices like this upsets me greatly. I wonder if we can start a petition or something to get attention to these severe issues?

  2. I’m pretty sure things are about to change after the next election. People are tired of this and I think most of the Finns are ready to close the borders foe good. I myself were once quite tolerating person, but after seeing how things have gone.. 40 % of all the rapings are done by immigrants, and I would say that’s quite a large number when compared to the fact that only 4% of inhabitants are foreigners..

  3. @Ina,justice hasn’t gone any where…. i myself i am an immigrant and 120% upset with what this guy from sudan did. Deportation is not the solution, he should be treated like someone in the house and be given justice for his dirty crime. U live abroad and plan to move back to finland someday right!!! Rape happens everywhere even where u are based so don’t speak like u live in a paradise without crime.
    Are u aware of the numerous rapes carried out by Finns themselves which is never in the news? have u ever asked urself why only journals by immigrants(africans) upsets u? If Finland was as perfect as u think then what are u doing outside? u seem not to even know your own people and what they do some times.

    @Ainno!! Where the hell are u from with this statistics? no election will change crimes, what needs to changed is our mentality and the way we look at things. This guy from Sudan is insane and equal to a killer and should be treated according to the law for his crime. When u talk like this i see HATE in your speech which i as a foreigner will not tolerate. I live in Lahti and plans to move back to my country of origin ‘cos i don’t belong here and everything here makes me sick. Do u have any idea of what Finns themselves do (rape)? do u know how many wives are being raped by their outlaw husbands and don’t go to the police? Shit happens everywhere and wether immigrants or natives they should be charged according to the law…kiitos

  4. @Africa

    I’m sure of that a lot of people, including immigrants, hate what this man did but not deporting criminals like these is not a smart thing: He will certainly not bring anything to this society and he has already proven to be an extremely violent individual, who within a short timespan put two people at extreme risk.
    Regardless of how many, or few, native criminals Finland’s got, the country certainly doesn’t need a single violent criminal more in the streets.

    When it comes to rapes and statistics, these figures are hard to come by, as governments often refuse to collect data based on ethnic background, but it’s perhaps not news to you that 100% of the assault rapes in Oslo, where they recorded the ethnicities, were committed by non-Western foreigners.
    That’s an attitude that has to got to change among the foreigners, but most of it is bred in their homecountries in their own cultural sphere, which means that there has to be major changes in their cultures and attitudes.

    The elections will show how many Finns are tired of the current system with a softer justice and immigration system, which both affects the number of crimes, and with enough votes for politicians who are equally tired there will definitely be change in the long run.
    Hopefully long before the situation turns as dire as in many other European nations.

  5. As a detail relating to the case, here is an example on Lehto’s horrible insulting of islam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1okZOYupiqc . Judge yourselves, if the crimes and punishmens are in balance (Lehto made several videos, though, but this must be the most famous and in “english”).

  6. “@Ainno!! Where the hell are u from with this statistics? no election will change crimes, what needs to changed is our mentality and the way we look at things.”

    No Western Assault Rapists in Oslo’s Streets
    http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4274

    40 % of all the rapings in Helsinki are done by immigrants.
    http://omakaupunki.hs.fi/paakaupunkiseutu/uutiset/maahanmuuttajat_yliedustettuina_helsingin/

  7. @ Africa, sorry for the delay in responding. I wish I could dedicate my whole time for this issue. Please see my comments below.

    @Ina,justice hasn’t gone any where…. i myself i am an immigrant and 120% upset with what this guy from sudan did. Deportation is not the solution, he should be treated like someone in the house and be given justice for his dirty crime.

    Ina:I disagree. Deportation would be the solution, why wouldn’t it? Finland does have its own rapists and criminals and I would prefer to see Finland only having to deal with them, not any extra baggage from other countries. In your note to Ainno you mentioned that you are sick of Finland and wanting to return to your own country. One day when you are settled back home again, would you want as a tax payer to contribute to foreigners’ crime cases? After having lived in 6 different countries I welcome other nationalities to Finland and so do many other Finns for a harmonious life, but the moment they start breaking the law, it is time to show them the door.

    U live abroad and plan to move back to finland someday right!!! Rape happens everywhere even where u are based so don’t speak like u live in a paradise without crime.

    Ina:Africa, I am fully aware that rapes are committed ALL OVER THE WORLD, not only in Finland. However, that’s not the point, the point is how to improve the system in Finland, that’s what we are talking about. I do live outside of Finland, in a country of 11 x more inhabitants than that of Finland and rapes and other heinous crimes take place here daily. Only last Sunday I passed by a street with police “do not cross” tapes due to a killing having taken place. Therefore I do not live in a paradise (who does anyway??).

    Are u aware of the numerous rapes carried out by Finns themselves which is never in the news?

    Ina:Yes, I am aware of them. Sexual crimes committed by Finns in Finland do also exist, I know that too many of them don’t get reported. Also, the below demonstrates that Finns can be from hell:

    “Oululaisen teinipojan runsas viikko sitten raiskanneet miehet ovat edelleen kateissa. Poliisi etsii kahta suomalaismiestä, joiden epäillään raiskanneen ja pahoinpidelleen 14-vuotiaan pojan toissa lauantaina aamuyöllä Oulun Maikkulassa.”

    Did you see ”suomalaismiesta”??? What about:

    “Helsingin järjestyspoliisissa työskennellyt 51-vuotias konstaapeli raiskasi 16-vuotiaan tytön – selvisi ehdoilla.” This is proper distressing.

    have u ever asked urself why only journals by immigrants(africans) upsets u?

    Ina: All the rape cases, regardless of the crook being Finn or non-Finn (African?) upset me hugely. I wish we could deport these ogres, like above, far away from Finland but what can we do? No “Australia of criminals” exists anymore. The society now unfortunately has to take the hit with dealing its own country men behaving that way. However, in the instance of the Sudanese rapist, we have the option in not having to deal with a non-Finn and this is also part of my point. We don’t want/need that extra burden. He should lose his right to live in the Finnish society and go back to Sudan. That’s why we have borders. Finland gave him a chance to let him live in Finland. They have a civil war in Sudan, we want to help people in such awful situations, but why should we help them when they eat the hand that feeds them?

    If Finland was as perfect as u think then what are u doing outside? u seem not to even know your own people and what they do some times.

    Ina:Oh believe you me, I do know my “own people” as much as I want to know them. Plus Finland is not perfect, (if you haven’t noticed, we are talking about its soft justice system under which it has a tendency to protect criminals.) You are putting words in my mouth, stop doing that. I am not going into details as to why I am not in Finland yet, it’s not relevant to this topic. I might as well ask you: what are you still doing in Finland if everything makes you sick?

    Africa, I’m not unhappy with immigrants in Finland but unhappy with immigrants committing crimes in Finland. They are taking the piss by behaving like monsters after having received a relatively safe country to live in.


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